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Collective Wisdom

Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:42 am

Over the past years we have come to many conclusions about weapons in the ZPAW.
I think it is time we started a thread to collect all that into one sock if you will.

Lets start with Revolver vs Automatic

There are 2 problems with revolvers.
Low round count and maintenance.
Most people think of revolvers as maintenance free but they are not.
They can be incredibly reliable but repair almost always involves hand fitting parts.
If a Glock breaks you just swap out the part for another one.

Re: Collective Wisdom

Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:59 pm

Agreed. I can't even make minor repairs to my revolver but never really had an issue with my autos. Play around with the main spring on a revolver without the proper tools and you end up with an expensive hunk of useless metal. Ever see what happens to a cylinder when a primer backs out of the primer pocket? You're done.....
If you have guns around during the ZPAW, you'd better have spare parts, proper tools, and the knowledge to use them.
If you don't you're much better off with something like a glock product.
I have spare parts (and necessary tools/equipment) for all of my main weapons. Some can be a tad expensive for things just laying around forever, but it's the best money you ever spent when you're stuck with a malfunctioning firearm with nobody to help you.

Great topic bob

Re: Collective Wisdom

Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:56 pm

Excellent points UD
One should be able to make at least simple repairs to their weapons.
Edged or powered...

I think next is caliber

Lets start with handguns.

In a normal social situation it's hard to have too much gun.
Caliber wise, socially speaking unless we are talking about pocket pistols, I am firm believer in 45 ACP and 10 mm.

In the ZPAW I am a firm believer in high capacity low recoil.
You want to have a lot of shots before needing to reload.
You want to have fast recovery time in order to get off repeat shots.

Against the undead I think 9 mm might be the best all around choice.
You can get 33 round 9mm mags for a Glock, it's hard to argue with that round count.
The magazine does not stick out as far as you might think either.

Re: Collective Wisdom

Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:34 pm

Yeah, for zeds I think .32 cal and above would be plenty of gun. I'm a 40 fan so that would be my all around choice, but I wouldn't feel outgunned with the 38s or 9mms. I'd shelf the magnum calibers. Too big, too heavy, and too loud. Save them for game hunting. I'd stick with FMJ ammo for zeds as well. No need for expansion when you only have to pierce the skull and brain.

Re: Collective Wisdom

Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:02 am

I agree with UD on the ammunition choice.
Even with modern hollow points fmj will feed more reliably.
After all it's what most pistols are designed to work with.

I would go so far as to recommend against highly modified race guns.
Adhere to the KISS principle for readabilities sake.

Re: Collective Wisdom

Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:49 pm

Any quality off the shelf auto should do the trick.
Do you remember the tilt-up barrel Beretta pistols? I've always wanted one in 32 and 380. But that ammo still cost a fortune around here. I'd be real scarce in the ZPAW too. Only person I know that stocks up on 380 is a family member.
9mm, 40, and 45 would be the most common around here. Although the lack of gun shops and sporting goods stores that sell ammo in this area would put a real hurting on you if you didn't already have a decent stash on hand. Only thing I'd be low on is 32 Win Spec and 22lr.
What's next bob?

Re: Collective Wisdom

Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:32 am

Long Arms

Against the undead, light, low recoil, high capacity.
I am a big fan of both the AR and the AK.
I would be fine with a quality variant of either.
I am hesitant to say which would have more available ammunition.
I think I would give the nod to the AR.

As to reliability and ease of maintenance.
AR's are not the delicate pieces of crap some think they are, they will hold up and run.
AK's are a simpler design and I don't buy into the myth that all you have to do is rinse it off in a ditch to maintain it.

I would be happy with either.

Re: Collective Wisdom

Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:10 pm

I like my .44 but being a single action with a 7 inch barrel and a very slow reload it would be impractical.

For a pistol I would probably resort to my Ruger sr40 it's reliable and I have never had an issue with it and I'm running close to putting 1000 rounds through it.

For rifle I would either go with my Rossi m92 or my AR pistol. Both are accurate but one has a bigger round and the other holds more.

Re: Collective Wisdom

Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:28 am

Rossi vs AR ?
Against the undead, AR all the way.

Re: Collective Wisdom

Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:08 pm

My FAL would do just fine. Got plenty of mags and a serious supply of ammo. Whenever I get bored I load more 7.62. Always on the lookout for more 32 Win Spec ammo or brass. Over the years I've only found 350 of them. Very uncommon caliber. When you see them it's usually only. 2 or 3 boxes. Got lots 170 gr bullets though.
Been doing any reloading lately Bob?
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